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 Post subject: PSPI
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:37 pm  (#1) 
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I am being told by a PSP group that I should be able to use PS plug ins in GIMP. Now from what I know, the PSPI plug in is nto suitable for the mac version of GIMP. Can anyone enlighten me with this please.


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:43 am  (#2) 
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akky wrote:
GIMP Version: 2.8.2
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I am being told by a PSP group that I should be able to use PS plug ins in GIMP. Now from what I know, the PSPI plug in is nto suitable for the mac version of GIMP. Can anyone enlighten me with this please.

May have been possible (I don't know) with the past 32-bit Mac Gimp, but definitely not possible with 64-bit McGimp. I could be wrong of course. :)

Perhaps this PSP group person can enlighten us?


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:49 am  (#3) 
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no partha it hasnt ever been possible to my knowledge and not according to sourceforge either...thats why I am puzzled...thanks for answering me tho it is very much appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:54 am  (#4) 
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partha wrote:

Perhaps this PSP group person can enlighten us?

the person referenced me in a later post to a post on sourceforge which, when I actually went there and opened up the comments, I found that it was actually saying it was not possible...and the post was well over 2 years old. Thats why I thought that perhaps with the new native version for mac that may have changed.


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:57 am  (#5) 
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May be hope ,if Wine works in Mac something may be done:
same for other workaround as use shell-out RobA script with Xnview or irfanview windows version to run PS plugin

All depend from Wine if is available or not for MAC
(not sure if other emulator may solve )

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:06 am  (#6) 
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according to sourceforge it needs WINE and it is not available for Mac as far as I know...but I'll investigate that one further. thanks for the input PC


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:07 am  (#7) 
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Looking better Wine seems running well on Mac
see http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX

Once you installed Wine you should be able to install also the WINDOWS version (others would not do the trick) of xnview
http://www.xnview.com (browse well the downloads to get the full version ) that may run PS plugin

If works well you can use the ShellOut RobA script to launch xnview as was a Gimp plugin

It is less likely that Pspi would work as it is, without some hack (it may need a file that is only in the linux but not in the windows version )

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:45 pm  (#8) 
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bbut wait...Shellout is in the partha native version of GIMP 2.8.2 for mac. ...in fact I can actually install linux on my VMware. Its just a bit of a pain to have to do that tho for me. It means I'd have to install GIMP for Linux and find out where all the installs go blah blah blah...like learning all over again


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:16 pm  (#9) 
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akky wrote:
bbut wait...Shellout is in the partha native version of GIMP 2.8.2 for mac. ...in fact I can actually install linux on my VMware. Its just a bit of a pain to have to do that tho for me. It means I'd have to install GIMP for Linux and find out where all the installs go blah blah blah...like learning all over again

Is there a specific PS plug-in that you are interested in?


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:59 am  (#10) 
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Yes shell out is installed but the point is if Xnview (or irfanview ) will work with Wine
And Pspi (that is not compiled yet for Mac ) would require wine too (at least the Linux versions need wine.

We are talking here of windows PS plugin , a few have also a Mac version but for that i have no much info and even if i may sound weird i fear the Mac version would be even more difficult to run , at least with gimp.

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:27 am  (#11) 
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It's possible to install Wine on Mac easily: just look for a software named WineBottler (or its rival Wineskin).
Its installation package includes Wine, already packaged as a standard MacOSX application.
It is therefore possible to install WineBottler (with its Wine.app) (or Wineskin) and to run with it GIMP for Windows (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/), which allows to run the Mathmap plugin and, yes, also the PSPI plugin on a Mac (PSPI and the last version of Mathmap do not exist in a native version for Mac).

Besides, it is possible to use on your Mac many .8bf filters (photoshop plug-ins for Windows) also by using (with Wine and WineBottler or Wineskin) some Windows freeware applications like Image Analyzer, PixBuilder Studio, Chasys Draw IES and IrfanView (it is advisable to try them all, not only IrfanView, and, if needed, to read the information on their sites about how to use the .8bf filters with each of them).

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:35 pm  (#12) 
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oh that seems perfect...i mean not much run Gimp on wine but that allows to run gimp normally and call irfanview xnview or what else for the PS plugin

Humm sure the Mathmap plugin could run only on windows and linux...maybe just because nobody did try yet to compile for Mac should not be obstacles (except that Mathmap require a quite unusual building enviroment ).

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:03 pm  (#13) 
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ok for a starter...I can and do run windows on the mac anyway when I need to so why do I need Wine???
Whats more, I can and do run PSP several versions son the mac as well....I use VMware Fusion...is this not good enough???
For me that would mean learning a whole new ball game as I really wouldnt be using mac to do thee things but one of the windows programs or Linux which I can also install on VMware Fusion...so making the right choice is an iussue for me and also I am not keen to use any of the virtual machines and have the internet available as it means I would have to then purchase antivirus software as well..I think I'd rather use LINUX than WINDOWS, but know nothing about either.


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:05 am  (#14) 
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Pauline,

If you are already running Windows on your Mac, then no need to fiddle with Wine which allows you to run Windows applications on Linux.

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:55 am  (#15) 
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Yes… Speaking about running Windows PC programs on the Mac, it is a little different on the Mac: Wine on Mac (that is: WineBottler or Wineskin) allows you to run many Windows applications on the Mac (it works like Crossover, for those of you who know it), without actually running Windows.
This has the advantage that you don't have to worry about Windows-related viruses and antiviruses.

If you already have VMWare Fusion, you may use it, of course, to run your Windows applications, including Image Analyzer, PixBuilder Studio, Chasys Draw IES, IrfanView, XNView or GIMP with PSPI (and Mathmap), and use the Photoshop filters for Windows with these programs.
Be aware, anyway, that if you run the Windows applications through VMWare Fusion, you will be actually running Windows really, and will have to install a Windows antivirus.

This will not happen if you run the Windows applications through WineBottler or Wineskin (that is Wine for Mac), because in this other way you are not running Windows really. The negative side is that in this way the compatible Windows programs will be fewer (some will not install or will not run). Anyway, GIMP for Windows with PSPI and all the other Windows programs I mentioned run well on a Mac with WineBottler or Wineskin.

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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:42 pm  (#16) 
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Thanks Forest but I did mention in a previous post in this thread that I would have to have antivirus if using VMware Fusion..as it is at the moment, I use that to get into PSP solely for the purpose of transforming psp tubes into .png...and with the availability of so many filters etc via GMIC, I'm not sure its really worth my while to go further with it to figure out how to install all of the extras using GIMP on a WINDOWS interface...it kind of defeats the purpose of having a mac in the first place for me...however, I have had come into my hands a pc laptop which is not 2yo and has been replaced by a newer one...and its possible I may begin to expand my horizons on thatI think so stay tuned...I know I am going to need help with somethings I dont understand on it when I get started. I'm just waiting for boy wonder to restore it to factory settings and then I'll be starting to play with it..


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:36 pm  (#17) 
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I learned gimp on a windoze machine and don't find it different...it used to be different, but with Partha's new mcgimp build, it's very similar.


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:28 am  (#18) 
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2-ton wrote:
I learned gimp on a windoze machine and don't find it different...it used to be different, but with Partha's new mcgimp build, it's very similar.

For me its learning how to install all the extras ..... I dont really have a clue about pc computers but I have had a windows 7 lappy fall into my hands in the past few days


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 Post subject: Re: PSPI
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:40 am  (#19) 
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akky wrote:
2-ton wrote:
I learned gimp on a windoze machine and don't find it different...it used to be different, but with Partha's new mcgimp build, it's very similar.

For me its learning how to install all the extras ..... I dont really have a clue about pc computers but I have had a windows 7 lappy fall into my hands in the past few days

Pauline,

It's similar to the Mac version. Under Windows as of now, you have a user folders called .gimp-2.8 or .gimp-2.7 etc. On Windows 7, this resides in C:\Users\$Username\, where $Username is your login in ID in Windows.

The rest is the same, put scripts in scripts, fonts in fonts, plugins in plug-ins etc.

Hope that helps,
Partha


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