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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:14 pm  (#121) 
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Hi Hatti,

Thank you for sharing amendment and a lot of interesting changes.

Since there are no files (bin for Windows) to download - this sad ...

And you can write (with details) how do You compile GIMP RGGJ for Windows?
There are many different instructions - of which you are using?

I learn to build Gimp for Windows - (but I'm at the very beginning) - but a lack of knowledge -according to which provision is to be done for Windows?

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:56 pm  (#122) 
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I used

http://meudepositodeideias.wordpress.co ... s-32-bits/

but I changed it it many ways.
I use two Virtual machines for developing. One is a 32bit Vista, the other is a 64bit Vista.
I got the Vista licenses for less than 20 (german) bucks and I do not have problems with cross compiling.


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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:12 pm  (#123) 
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Thank you for submitting - it's new to me.
Tomorrow weekend - so it's my time to try.
Cordial greetings.

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:11 pm  (#124) 
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The first attempt - went badly...
Error (already) from Babl ...
Onkel Hatti wrote:
I used

http://meudepositodeideias.wordpress.co ... s-32-bits/
but I changed it it many ways.
I use two Virtual machines for developing. One is a 32bit Vista, the other is a 64bit Vista.
I got the Vista licenses for less than 20 (german) bucks and I do not have problems with cross compiling.

" but I changed it it many ways " - You can specify - what ?

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:29 pm  (#125) 
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:-)
I think, that would fill many pages.
With the tutorial above, I could compile gimp.
Nowadays, I compile the newest babl, gegl, etc..., almost any library that gimp needs.
In the tutorial, some of the libraries are found in the opensuse.factory directory.
Look there, there is almost everything you need.


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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:18 am  (#126) 
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I am going to try a confront of new and standard tool on a series of fractals i want edit

Well not too hard test ,the BG to remove is of a almost solid color, but the shapes to cut are very complex and rich of holes and images size quite big

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:27 pm  (#127) 
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A short note from the creator of the rggjan fork: First of all, thanks a lot for your support in keeping the project alive, doing patches and compiling the source code for others to use. It makes me really happy to see that my hard work is actually useful to others! :tyspin

About the copyright stuff:

Onkel Hatti wrote:
Hi.
... The gimp-version that I sent to Lyle contains all the changes (and even more), so I don't know,
whether I would break copyright laws, when offering this version of gimp.
I thought, all of gimp was under the GPL, and that this license allowed to change the code, as long as the result
was also under the GPL.
Partha and Samj made no changes to their version of gimp, they just compiled the current source and made a
distribution package.
So: I don't know, what to do.
What I can do without danger, is to offer the patches to the source.

Maybe a user with full knowledge can tell more about breaking copyright laws, when offering a changed (of course)
unofficial compile of gimp.

Hatti


Well, I'm pretty sure that you can change the source code of gimp all you like (without asking the original authors for permission), and also distribute or release the binaries or an executable. You may even sell it if you want. The only condition is that you give the source code of the original Gimp or your changes to anyone who asks. Thats GPL. Now all of the official gimp is under GPL, so you can do that to all the plugins already in there. However, if you're talking about some external plugins where the source code is found on separate websites (like the resynthesizer), you would probably need to check for each plugin what the license is and if you can use it.

Maybe this is not even necessary, since I guess GPL forces all Gimp plugins to be GPL too, but I'm not really sure about that. In any case, you can safely distribute binaries of a changed Gimp (including changes to "original" plugins)...

So I hope that you (or someone else) can compile and release your updated version of my fork. Be it on this forum or Dropbox, or (even better) on some Website, like Parthas place.

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:16 pm  (#128) 
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I can say personally that Onkel's 32-bit stand-a-lone works great and do like the new "tweaks" that he added. Kind of cool to have RGGJAN in true GIMP 2.8 too. I hope Onkel does share it with all soon. Not really necessary to release a 64-bit binary, but you won't hear me complain if he does either. lol

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:46 pm  (#129) 
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I would like it in 64 bit too Lyle

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:18 pm  (#130) 
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Thank you very much RGGJAN.

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...So I hope that you (or someone else) can compile and release your updated version of my fork. Be it on this forum or Dropbox, or (even better) on some Website, like Parthas place...

HATTI - we look forward...

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:53 am  (#131) 
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Ok. Here it is:
Gimp is complete with all dll's.
What is "special":

1. I changed almost all plugins to horizontal. The standard vertical view makes no sense in my eyes, because most used monitors are more wide than high...
And that gives the opportunity to make the preview bigger.
2. It uses LCMS-2 (dll included)
3. It uses changed paintbrush-options. In standard, the brush can be 10000px size, the slider shows up to 1000px size. I use gimp mostly for retouching photos, mostly I use small brushes, so the slider is not very comfortable. In gimp 2.9.1 a slider with a logarithmic behaviour will appear. I adaped it to gimp-2.8.3, so the slider shows up to 250px size, but 125px is not the half of slider width...
4. It uses Jan Rueeggs Matting foreground selection tool with my "improvements". The standard foreground extraction is also there. Matting is just the same symbol in red.

Further on, I made a tool (with AutoIT), that makes every version of gimp to a portable version.
All necessary .dll files are in the /bin directory, so no other directory is needed.
The tool creates an userdir (.gimp-2.8) in the gimp-2.8.3 dir (where the gimp-run-2.8.exe resides), so the original userdir (in home directory) is not affected.
The tool is named "gimp-run-2.8.exe". There can (not neccessary) be a "gimp-run-2.8.ini". The .ini must have the same name as the .exe, otherwise it will not be found.
The tool can be renamed, maybe to "gimp-run-2.9.exe".
Then, a .gimp-2.9 directory will be created and the gimp-2.9.exe will be started, so everything after the minus sign is the version of gimp.
Gimp must be started with the gimp-run-xx.exe command, otherwise gimp will overwrite the .gimp-xx directory in home directory.
The tool reaches the commandline parameters to gimp, so it is possible to start a graphic with this tool (gimp-run-2.8.exe "d:\pictures\IMG_2322.jpg") or whatever you want.

So: You can unzip the file to any directory you want and start gimp with a double click on gimp-run-2.8.exe


Windows 32Bit:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eiqtk9tdpyrrr ... 8.3_32.zip

Windows 64Bit:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2aev1wejd48f ... 8.3_64.zip


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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:22 pm  (#132) 
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i am a bit confused by the reference to 2.9

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Then, a .gimp-2.9 directory will be created and the gimp-2.9.exe will be started, so everything after the minus sign is the version of gimp.


It is not gimp 2.8.3...or there is some switch allowing to run both version ?
the gimp-run.exe anyway launch 2.8.3

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For the rest i didn't really tested but i used Onkel built from a few weeks and till now i didn't stumble in crashes or evident bug

And i found really nice its modifications to the plugin GUI, i think they will deserve to be included in the official version

(Yes Gimp developers actually are not interested to improve the old plugin if not to port them to gegl, but since this work is already done and well why do not use in the time while , for the plugin not yet ported as Gegl nodes ?)

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:31 pm  (#133) 
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PhotoComix wrote:
i am a bit confused by the reference to 2.9
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It is not gimp 2.8.3...or there is some switch allowing to run both version ?
the gimp-run.exe anyway launch 2.8.3
...


You are wrong. The exe is not called gimp-run.exe, but it is called gimp-run-2.8.exe. And that is the difference.
If you rename it to gimp-run-2.9.exe, it will work the same way, but it will call the gimp-2.9.exe in the bin directory. So with this tool, you can turn almost every gimp version into a portable version.


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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:39 pm  (#134) 
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i see
ok i will try that too

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:56 pm  (#135) 
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Onkel Hatti, I hope you continue sharing your improvements and patches for GNU/Linux users :)
Thank you!

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:18 pm  (#136) 
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onkel
if you want access to my sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-packagers/ ) to host your patch , source code and/or win binary just let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:56 am  (#137) 
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HATTI - it is very good.
Thank you very much.

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:55 pm  (#138) 
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Very happy with the 64-bit version Onkel; thanks a heap. :)

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:07 am  (#139) 
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Where is the 64 bit version ?

BTW Onkel did you got problems to upload on Sourceforge ?
You should have all permission but if any problem i may do for you (i just will need the links i only have the 32 bit version )

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 Post subject: Re: The RGGJAN Portable
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:11 am  (#140) 
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PS

gimprun create a lot of problems with antivirus (most will try to delete, others will run gimp in sort of sandbox, or really slow down gimp because suspiciously monitoring any single process )not sure if that may be solved.

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